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The Neo Phenon...

Posted on Apr 10th, 2006 by Katya : The waker Katya
So I have been thinking about this a bit.
Why was Neo so disturbed as soon as he had gotten the "answers"? Well because he probably felt there was little else to learn...thus sacrificing himself in the end.

My yoga teacher said to me once that we lose interest in life when we feel that there is nothing to learn any longer.How is that possible you ask? The world is full of wonder! Thats what he said - focus on the little things.

Yes, but how can we spring from that place when it really does seem that there is nothing new? Rather, that there is so much that we can never grasp it all.
For me, I start to go into myself - but that self is not alway productive. Its also often negative and self defeating.
Loops, loops.

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Rob : One
about 11 hours later
Rob said

as one of the many eastern mystics might have said: “Who is it that has learned everything?
So long as there is a separation between learner and learned, there is more learning to be done, for Truth can only be validated by identity with it and not by simply knowing about it.
There is no ‘one’ to lose interest, having learned everything…only a single unchanging state of Truth.”

or some such thing.

-Rob

Katya : The waker
about 24 hours later
Katya said

One, unchanging, TRUTH…

BORING.

Thats why we have human bodies in the first place.

You try floating through space bouncing off nothingness and repeat to yourself over and over “this is fun. this is fun”

:)

I tease, but you get what I’m saying (I hope!) :)

Cheers,
Katya

Rob : One
1 day later
Rob said

if there’s any ‘one’ left to be bored, then one has not learned the ’one unchanging Truth’. They still see themselves as separate from that one Truth. Separate and opinionated.

When we’re opinionated we’re mistaking what we see for what we think we see…and that’s evidence enough for me to believe that an opinionated(bored) person doesn’t know the whole unchanging Truth. The stagnance comes from the lack of change in ‘their’ unchanging truth.

‘What is’ vs. ‘What we thing about what is’
on one hand Truth is peace…and on the other, truth is unacceptable.
Do we want fun? Do we want boredom? or do we want Peace?

-Rob

Katya : The waker
2 days later
Katya said

see i have trouble speaking about absolute states i know nothing about. i would also like to infer that most people know nothing about them.

peace and fun dont have to live in separate worlds, and why cause creation if peace has been achieved and is rooted in the basic principles of the “absolute” the “creator” or what-have-you ? why even bother if peace is the ultimate state of mind? because peace and fun are not antonyms.

I used to believe in a capital T truth. I dont know what that is.

the mind is the onion of perception and reality - there are countless layers to what we know and understand.

i like being human with all the madness and sorrow and happiness as well. i prefer to chose fun over boredom as far as i understand what those two are.

i understand you  comment about the duality. that's why there is the illusion that things are stagnant when they're not - because we forget that we are just a drop in the ocean.

Katya

Jordan : LightWriter
about 1 month later
Jordan said

I love discussions like these, but listening to the Terry Gross interview of Leonard Cohen last night – available thanks to our tax dollars at http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13&prgDate=22-May-06 – I remembered that, often, ordinary words fail us in a way that poetry and music sometimes do not. (There’s some link to a few of Leonard’s songs from that page to which can be listened to if you like.)

As for boredom … I once heard, in a seminar, that boredom can be thought of as hostility without enthusiasm, or it can be reframed as the step before new learning.

All of this, of course, is useless when we are really down. Sometimes all we can do is the best we can do, knowing that emotions are transitory and will pass, and that underneath it all the Divine really does encompass and permeate everything.

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